the_gneech (
the_gneech) wrote2003-12-15 12:33 pm
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Argh
Okay, look:
Let fly with your flames if you want, I'll put on my asbestos undies. But if you decide to yell at me, at least try to understand my point first.
-The Gneech
- The capture of Saddam Hussien is not as significant to internal U.S. politics as a lot of people seem to think it is. Swing voters generally swing on economic issues, not foreign policy.
- Saddam Hussien did not "magically appear during an election year." What do people think those guys in Iraq have been doing for the past year, standing around with targets on their chests until it was politically expedient to do something? The man was hard to find, for cryin' out loud.
- How come if something is perceived as being going badly in Iraq, Bush gets all the blame, but if something is perceived as being good, he gets none of the credit? Is he "Fall Guy in Chief?"
- Most importantly, on Saddam's orders, populations were slaughtered; one of his elite guard's favorite ways of dealing with dissenters was to force them to watch family members being raped or brutalized; he basically bled the country dry so his own family and favored lackeys would be rich, rich, rich. If somebody's first reaction upon hearing of his capture is to think, "Uh oh, Bush might get a blip in the polls," I gotta think that person's priorities are way out of whack. It's like the Palestinians saying, "Yes, he was a brutal tyrant, but at least he's Muslim" -- isn't that missing the big picture? There is so much more going on in the world than the incessant bickering of Demidupes vs. Pooblioobs!
Let fly with your flames if you want, I'll put on my asbestos undies. But if you decide to yell at me, at least try to understand my point first.
-The Gneech
Oh, really?
If you want to get closer, you'll have to strip the United States of it's history, because we were founded on the principles of Puritans, Quakers and Presbyterians. The very basis and shape of our government was borrowed from the leadership of the Presbyterian Church of Scotland.
In addition, you will have to execrate religion of any sort from every single person who ever sets foot in a government building. Not just the people who hold offices there-- but every person who enters. Because this is a republic, which means the people are still the heart of the system. Thus, the officers and bureaucrats are answerable to the people. Which means they are answerable even to the individuals guided by religion who come in to their offices.
You will have to strip the United States of most of its laws, because they are founded on the moral principles of Christendom. That includes the laws protecting property (thou shall not steal), life (thou shall not murder), even the sanctity of marriage (thou shall not covet thy neigbor's wife). And of course, the Declaration of Independence is null and void, because it explicitly states that we are created equal, which requires that there be a Creator. So in that case, I guess you belong to England.
But of course, you can't belong to them, either, because the power of their government stems from the Divine Right of Kings, as all European Thrones were established by the Papacy. So that means you are an individual without a nation, which means you are not protected by any laws anywhere. See, the muslim governments are set up by the divine laws of Allah, the Chinese government gained it's legitimacy from turning Buddha into a god, the Japanese empire believed the Sun God gave them their authority. Even the tribes in the Amazon base their local government on religion.
So please tell me how you are ever going to strip religion from the government?
-=TK