Sketch-A-Day: More Tiffany [artwork]

[the_gneech]

Well! There was certainly a wide spectrum of opinion on yesterday's sketch. :D So naturally, I had to do some follow-up. :) Today is a batch of expressions which are intended to use the same basic model as yesterday, albeit a bit tweaked to remove some things that didn't work and to try to phase back in enough hints of "classic" Tiffany to prevent that "Who the heck is this gal?" reaction.



Better? Not as good? No diff? Let me know what you think! :)

-The Gneech

Comments

[aj-hyena.livejournal.com]

You should do Leona like this in comparison, especially with the snarl. I could see them snarling at each other like in that one strip where Tiffany says "You've earned it" or something.

The style is starting to grow on me a little bit, though the picture of her singing... she looks sorta canine to me. Must be the angle.

*doubletakes* Is that a ring on her paw? Hehe.

[the-gneech.livejournal.com]

Yes, but it's on her right hand. :)

-TG

[strredwolf.livejournal.com]

I'm not sure the hOOOOge nose works with the rest of your style, Gneech.

[the-gneech.livejournal.com]

Actually, I was trying make her nose/muzzle smaller; the one I ended up with here is closer to her current model than I wanted.

-TG

[frostdemn.livejournal.com]

She should be a lion. >.>

:P Okay, sorry, jeez. I'm still loving the hair style. Great job with the emotions, but the "That man." picture looks like she's just a little miffed rather than pretty frustrated. Is that what you're going for? ("That man." sounds like "pretty frustrated" to me).


What's Leona's hair style gonna be like? >.>

[the-gneech.livejournal.com]

I was aiming for a kind of resigned annoyance, like "Yeah, yeah, there he goes again."

Leona's hair is definitely going to require looking at when her chance comes around. I'm going to be looking at hairstyles to see if I can find something appropriate to model it on.

-TG

[dhlawrence.livejournal.com]

Very nicely done :)

[the-gneech.livejournal.com]

Thankee! :)

-TG

[hbar98.livejournal.com]

I'm going to comment on the hand.

I understand that having four fingers is easier to draw than five. But there is something that flips a switch in my mind about how your did the four fingers there. It is difficult to quantify...perhaps it is because they aren't attached to the rest of her body, and perhaps it is the long, highlighted nails, perhaps it is the ring on the middle finger...

[the-gneech.livejournal.com]

The main difference between this hand and her current hand is where the orange/white divide is; I would imagine that most of the time you probably just don't pay attention to the number of fingers.

The ring does call attention to the three-fingered aspect, however.

-TG

a couple thoughts...

[camelai.livejournal.com]

I think the canine-look aj_hyena mentioned comes from the lack of the round cheek/whisker pad area that felines have. Instead, she has a long, straight, canine-looking muzzle.
I think the snarl would look more believable with a wrinkle or two above and around her nose.
Love seeing these sketches every day! :)

Re: a couple thoughts...

[the-gneech.livejournal.com]

I was thinking it might be the fangs, m'self. :) But yes, her muzzle did end up longer than intended in much of this page.

-TG

[mitchy.livejournal.com]

I could learn to like this style, I like it way more than yesterdays. The snarl is really ferocious but for me the pic that nails what I look for in Tiffany is the "WTF?" one :)

BTW, you're very brave to put this stuff out there and let us pull it to pieces. I hope you get we do it because we love the strip?

[the-gneech.livejournal.com]

Well thanks. :) Having it pulled to pieces is much better than hearing chirping crickets, believe me. :)

FWIW, you don't have to worry about stepping on my emotional toes -- these are all experiments. :) And if I was really in love with a design element, it would stay regardless of what people said about it. ;)

-The Gneech

[theodwulf.livejournal.com]

I'm liking this much more than the last one: this looks like Tiffany.

One thing that I didn't realize had been gone till it was back was the unbroken line from the shoulder up the neck, seen here in the "frustrated at some man" pose, because the hair is all one side. It's almost a characteristic gesture, so I hope that stays in whatever the final design turns out to be.

[the-gneech.livejournal.com]

Not sure what you're referring to re: unbroken line from the shoulder up the neck. Do you mean her hair?

-TG

[theodwulf.livejournal.com]

Kinda. I mean that we can see all of the line that goes from her shoulder up to her jawline, because the hair is pulled back or all on the other side or something.

[athelind.livejournal.com]

Yeah -- classic Tiff's cheek-ruffs generally aren't obscured by her hair, and personally, I prefer that. It gives her that Sigourney Weaver jawline.

I also like the more substantial muzzle -- but then, I like my furries to look like animals, rather than animalistic people.

[level-head.livejournal.com]

I like it. It is, indeed, more recognizable -- and when you've built up an attachment to a character who exists merely as drawn lines, a substantial change in those lines is a big deal.

I don't seem to recall noticing lipstick before. It obviously makes sense in the context of "supermodel" -- but it simply never jumped out at me.

Long necks on left, short necks on right and center. The extra length seems a bit much.

By coincidence, I have been toying with which finger to use for a wedding band on a character with three fingers. And that's in a hard-science-fiction story. I like your solution, now that I can see it. ];-)

The gal on the upper left seems to be a good "New Tiffany". She maintains the horizontal eyes, but is new-featured around the muzzle.

A series of quick sketches at various profile angles, and animated for a rotation loop, might be helpful.

===|==============/ Level Head

[the-gneech.livejournal.com]

Hmm ... the necks all read as being the same length to me. In the profile view she's wearing a turtleneck, which makes her neck look shorter, and in the center she's got on a hoodie, which also bunches up around the neck. One reason I give Tiff a longish neck is so her hair will have plenty of room to go cascading down. :)

The lipstick was one of Sue's innovations that really struck me, as were the "eyebrows as stripes." :)

-The Gneech

[kylet.livejournal.com]

I don't know if you saw my previous comment, but...well, you pretty much addressed all my critiques here :-) This is unquestionably Tiff! So, rockin', go for it :-)

Two minor thoughts...with all due respect to Sue, I'm not sure what I think of the single-lip lipstick. Not sure if her muzzle is the right shape for that. And the nose (the nose pad itself) shape is a bit canid. The nose has a dip in the center on top, making it shaped somewhere between a Y and a heart. Google "tiger face" images to see. It's a little less pronounced in lions, but similar. Meanwhile the nose that is rounded on top is more reminisicient of a dog. Just a suggestion.

Dunno about the 4-fingered hands. I could never get the hang of 'em myself, but if you like 'em, kewl :-)

[the-gneech.livejournal.com]

I did see your previous comment, but wanted to see what you thought of these sketches before I, er, commented on your comment. :)

I'm still working on the muzzle; this one actually came out larger than I intended. And looking back at my "Not sure the realistic look works for me" pic I see that version did indeed have a heart-shaped nose, so I'll have to see if I can work that in a bit more.

I need to post some of the Sue sketches that only I have seen; they really are amazing stuff, and a few of them really get Tiffany spot-on. But I want to get my own version "locked in" in my head first. :)

I prefer the 4-finger hands, m'self, at least for furries. I always draw the NeverNever cast with full hands tho; go fig. :)

-The Gneech

[ladyfox7oaks.livejournal.com]

The "WTF?" shot is the one that looks most like Tiffany to me. But I'm not an artist- so I'm afraid I can't give you any really constructive feedback beyond "Dur...DAT one."...

[the-gneech.livejournal.com]

Hey, that's plenty. :) Thanks!

-The Gneech

[c-eagle.livejournal.com]

The messy-hair morning is a hoot!

[fferret.livejournal.com]

Hrm. I've taken several looks at this...It just now came to me what's bothering me,. She looks younger, but I'm not sure if she looks too young or not. Shooting for early 20s?