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I just discovered today that the Player's Handbook II that's out this month includes a boatload of acrobatics and archery feats. 0.o

Also, apparently there's a feat somewhere in Complete Warrior called "Combat Archery" that protects you from AoO's when using bows in melee ... how could I have missed that?

EDIT: Oh, that's how ... it's an Epic feat. Le sigh!

There's also, it seems, a ton of archery feats in Races of the Wild, presumably to go with the info on elves. Able Sniper, baby!

I love being pandered to. ^.^ I just wish I'd known it was happening before I put so much work into my character already.

-The Gneech

Date: 2006-05-17 05:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-lizard-rat.livejournal.com
PHB II? Is that overwriting the original or is it an addition to the 3.5 PHB?

Lizard Rat out.
Random Questioner in Albany NY

Date: 2006-05-17 06:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-gneech.livejournal.com
It's an additional, as was the (very good) Dungeon Master's Guide II that came out last year. I haven't seen it yet, but I have high hopes. :)

-TG

Date: 2006-05-17 08:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rhanlav.livejournal.com
The PHBII for PHBs is not as good as the DMGII was for DMGs, but its still nice. I talked about it a little in one of my previous LJ posts about Telling Blow, the uber cool feat that'll double my damage of critical hits, effectively. ^_^

Not sure about the others though, but there are a few decent feats for archery in the PHBII, but some are crossbow related, so those might not be as useful for you. But I'm sure there are a few good ones at least. And that Complete Warrior feat? Yeah, go get that. It sounds useful. ^_^

Date: 2006-05-17 05:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sanity-cheque.livejournal.com
Jeez...I remember hearing something about D&D3e being about cutting out the kruft of extra books that sprung up in AD&D.

I am saddened by the return of "complete" books... I remember collecting the 2nd edition ones, having a 2 foot tall stack of brown books to tote around ;)

Date: 2006-05-17 06:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-lizard-rat.livejournal.com
EXACTLY. That's why I stick to 3.0, even...

There's a Loremaster joke in here somewhere...

Lizard Rat out.
Not a Bookworm in Albany NY

Date: 2006-05-17 06:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-gneech.livejournal.com
Depends on who you ask; for me the whole point of 3E was "a ruleset that made sense." :) As long as every "non-core" book is 100% optional, they can keep coming up with all the splatbooks they want as far as I'm concerned -- although I'd much rather they did modules instead.

-The Gneech

Date: 2006-05-17 06:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sanity-cheque.livejournal.com
Naaah, WotC has all the d20 Open game system modules being produced by every tom, dick and fly-by-night company cashing in on the craze, why would they actually produce modules?

Date: 2006-05-17 06:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] purrzah.livejournal.com
Ooooh, thanks for the heads up.

I need to check on that feat in The Complete Warrior. I want my ranger to become an archery expert.

Which means he's gonna have to knock heads with the party thief-equivalent and elven paragon for the one they just won in a dungeon room.

Date: 2006-05-17 06:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-gneech.livejournal.com
Here's my list of all the archery feats I could find, which you might find useful:

Able Sniper (RacesW) - attack bonus and hide bonus when sniping
prereq.: Dex 13, Hide 5 ranks

Bowslinger (Underdark) - fast draw ranged weapons?
prereq.: ?

Combat Archery (CW) - avoid AoO's
prereq.: ?

Coordinated Shot (HeroesB) - bonus when firing into melee?
prereq.: ?

Deadeye Shot (PHB2) - Ready action to fire, denying foe Dex bonus to AC on your attack after ally hits foe
prereq.: Point Blank Shot, Precise Shot, base attack bonus +4, skirmish or sneak attack ability

Defensive Archery (RacesW) - avoid AoO's (how is it different?)
prereq.: ?

Distant Shot (Epic) - shoot anything you can see
prereq.: Dex 25, Far Shot, Point Blank Shot, Spot 20 ranks

Far Shot (PH) - double range
prereq.: Point Blank Shot

Fell Shot (XPH) - shoot as ranged touch attack
prereq.: ?

Manyshot (PH) - shoot 2 arrows into a target
prereq.: Dex 17, Point Blank Shot, Rapid Shot, base attack bonus +6
Greater Manyshot (XPH) - shoot multiple arrows all over
prereq.: ?
Improved Manyshot (Epic) - shoot multiple arrows at one target
prereq.: Dex 19, base attack bonus +21, Many-shot, Point Blank Shot, Rapid Shot

Mounted Archery (PH) - half penalties for mounted archery
prereq.: Ride 1, Mounted Combat
Improved Mounted Archery (CW) - ?
prereq.: ?

Penetrating Shot (PH2) - Your ranged attack targets every foe in 60-ft. line (!)
prereq.: Str 15, Point Blank Shot, base attack bonus +10

Point Blank Shot (PH) - duh
prereq.: n/a

Precise Shot (PH) - ignore fire-into-melee penalty
prereq.: Point Blank Shot
Improved Precise Shot (PH) - ignore almost all cover
prereq.: Dex 19, Point Blank Shot, Precise Shot, base attack bonus +11

Ranged Disarm (CW) - duh
prereq.: ?

Ranged Pin (CW) - duh
prereq.: ?

Ranged Sunder (CW) - duh
prereq.: ?

Rapid Shot (PH) - fire an extra shot
prereq.: Point Blank Shot
Improved Rapid Shot (CW) - no rapid shot penalty
prereq.: ?

Ready Shot (HeroesB) - "set vs charge" w/ bow
prereq.: ?

Sharp-Shooting (CW) - reroll miss from concealment
prereq.: ?

Shot On the Run - "spring attack" w/ bow
prereq.: Dex 13, Dodge, Mobility, Point Blank Shot, base attack bonus +4

Uncanny Accuracy (Epic) - ignore miss chance for concealment
prereq.: Dex 21, base attack bonus +11, Point Blank Shot, Precise Shot, Improved Precise Shot, Spot 20 ranks.

Woodland Archer (RacesW) - ?
prereq.: ?

The prestige classes of most interest to archer types I found were Arcane Archer (DMG), Peerless Archer (Silver Marches), and Order of the Bow Initiate (CW).

Have fun!

-The Gneech

Date: 2006-05-17 06:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] purrzah.livejournal.com
Religious bovines!

So many feats... so few slots...

Date: 2006-05-17 06:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-gneech.livejournal.com
Yes, well, the key is to prioritize. ;) Although you pretty much can't go wrong by starting with Point Blank Shot...

-The Gneech

Date: 2006-05-17 09:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rhanlav.livejournal.com
And the Epic ones you can rule out for the 'near future' at the very least. Attack Bonus of +21? Maybe if you're a fighter at 21st level perhaps.

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