It Is My Considered Opinion
Jun. 13th, 2006 09:11 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
the_gneechI have not seen any of the new Doctor Who episodes; so I can't give a fair assessment. But it is my considered opinion that if the Doctor is carbonating fangirl hormones, something is fundamentally off-kilter somewhere.
The Doctor/Romana angle was understated enough that you wanted to ignore it, you easily could. I liked McGann, but I disliked the faux-romance thing they threw into the Fox production. I get the impression that the new Doctor is even worse.
Pfui. Keep your sex out of my Doctor Who! Keep it cerebral and slightly goofy, please.
-The Gneech
The Doctor/Romana angle was understated enough that you wanted to ignore it, you easily could. I liked McGann, but I disliked the faux-romance thing they threw into the Fox production. I get the impression that the new Doctor is even worse.
Pfui. Keep your sex out of my Doctor Who! Keep it cerebral and slightly goofy, please.
-The Gneech
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Date: 2006-06-13 01:23 pm (UTC)You heard the man, Doctor, Rose - stop snogging already!
It would never work, you know. She's twenty, he's nine hundred. And that's just IQ points.
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Date: 2006-06-13 01:27 pm (UTC)*sputter, chortle*
-TG
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Date: 2006-06-13 01:52 pm (UTC)-TG
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Date: 2006-06-13 02:12 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-06-14 12:44 am (UTC)Torchwood! Bad Wolf!
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Date: 2006-06-13 01:49 pm (UTC)People are writing rather disturbing fanfic from McGann onwards...gah! Brain splodey....it makes it hard to get into the series, just because of the pictures it makes in my head. Fortunately people are beating me on the head to actually see the episodes...it's worth it. If you can fast-forward through the bits where they throw all sanity to the wind and imply that a 900+ year old alien can fall in cutesy-wootsey wuv with a 20-something Earthling, the production values are awesome and they've really done good things with the show. :)
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Date: 2006-06-13 01:52 pm (UTC)On the other hand, at least the droolers are pairing The Doctor up with a girl :O
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Date: 2006-06-13 02:04 pm (UTC)Heather is one of those Dr Who fangirls with the percolatin' hormones. She even made a fan music video that's been doing well on youtube.
I was pretty opposed to the whole "shippy" angle... but after watching it for two seasons (thank you bittorrent!) I can say that it's not really so bad. There's nothing wrong with a Companion being smitten in lurve with The Doctor, and The Doctor never actually returns those feelings onscreen. But of course he cares about his Companions.
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Date: 2006-06-13 02:17 pm (UTC)-The Gneech
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Date: 2006-06-13 02:04 pm (UTC)The stories are terribly personal and very well written.
I wholly respect your decision to steer clear of it as it is very different from traditional Who, but if you catch an episode with Eccleston, I would recommend "Father's Day".
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Date: 2006-06-13 02:12 pm (UTC)-TG
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Date: 2006-06-14 12:55 am (UTC)Good choice (IMO). I also like the following two parter, "The Empty Child" and "The Doctor Dances", a very creepy horror-esque story in 1941 London and the well written wrap-up. Enjoyable plot twists in that pair.
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Date: 2006-06-13 02:24 pm (UTC)I can't help it, Gneech. I'm a hopeless romantic! And I thought you were one too! But hey! It's funny, LOTS OF ACTION (see season two's "The Impossible Planet"/"The Satan Pit" two-parter), loads of history, really good CGI aliens... Just... It's awesome.
When I first heard of the concept (Humanoid alien with a time-machine in the shape of a police box), I was really like... "WTFOMG?" I've grown up on Star Trek because of my father and I was used to all of the "everything makes sense". So when
And me: "Well... Okay... I'll watch the first episode"
Now look at me!
Granted, I've only seen the 2005/2006 serials of it and I haven't seen the series that you grow up on.
Just hey, give it a shot. PWEASE, Gneech-sama!
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Date: 2006-06-13 02:46 pm (UTC)If various companions and supporting characters fall in love right and left, I'm all for it -- their whole purpose is to humanize the series. But not the Doctor. His whole purpose is to alienize it. It's like having a romance between Gandalf and Eowyn. Just makes no sense.
-The Gneech
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Date: 2006-06-13 04:38 pm (UTC)What's not to love? Yes, all right - I'll leave you alone.
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Date: 2006-06-14 01:48 am (UTC)Seriously, though, his monolougs can be pretty interesting at times. I do dislike his constant "You humans are so NEAT!" declarations where the bald apes stand around and don't go "What? Like you're not a human too?"
I don't mind the romance. It enrichens the flavor of the series. Yes, the Doctor is an alien from another planet who isn't human, but he's in love with the human race and eventually he's bound to find someone where things click in that just-so-special way that only comes by every thousand years or so.
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Date: 2006-06-13 02:52 pm (UTC)If you like the shippy Doctor, try finding stuff from the Tom Baker era with the companion Romana; she was a Time Lady, so that was the one relationship that actually could have worked, both emotionally and genetically.
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Date: 2006-06-13 02:56 pm (UTC)-TG
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Date: 2006-06-13 03:06 pm (UTC)I've been e-mailing back and forth with a friend in the land of Oz who couldn't understand Romana's becoming president of Gallifrey because when she last appeared in the series, she was becoming a renegade in e-Space to escape the controlling nature of the Time Lord government, and didn't understand why she'd want to go back. The only answer I could think of is that she regenerated while in e-Space and her new personality didn't object to returning.
I wonder if they'll confirm whether she and the other Time Lord companions/enemies survived Gallifrey going kablooey or whether they were among the dead.
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Date: 2006-06-13 03:18 pm (UTC)-The Gneech
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Date: 2006-06-13 03:44 pm (UTC)In the second episode of the 2005 series, he mentions that the Time Lords were destroyed in a Time War, which we later find out pitted the Time Lords against the Daleks. The Time Lords defeated the Daleks but destroyed themselves at the same time. Since several Daleks have appeared since, it casts doubt on whether all the Time Lords were wiped out.
With the help of the Aussie friend I mentioned, I can only think of four Time Lords/Ladies that could have survived: Susan, the Meddling Monk (whose Tardis was disabled some time in the Middle Ages), the Rani, and Draxx. The Master could have survived, since he's cheated death before, but since he fell into the Eye of Rassilon in the McGann movie, he's likely dead. Don't know about Romana or anyone else.
Other than that, the only Time Lords who could conceivably exist are the ones imprisoned on Shada and Professor Chronotis at Cambridge University, but since the Adams estate is rather picky about allowing his creations to be used by others, they probably won't show up any time soon.
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Date: 2006-06-14 01:55 am (UTC)In one of the novels of dubious canonicity, the Eighth Doctor is actually responsible for destroying Gallifrey, but it can somehow be restored from his memory (figure that one out!)
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Date: 2006-06-13 02:58 pm (UTC)But if you are that upset by all the innuendo between the Doctor and Rose, you are in for some serious torture when Sarah Jane Smith returns in an episode of Season 2.
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Date: 2006-06-13 03:01 pm (UTC)-TG
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Date: 2006-06-13 03:09 pm (UTC)Re: mini-micro-spoiler
Date: 2006-06-13 04:39 pm (UTC)And also Rose realizing that there were other companions before her and she gets pissed at the Doctor for "Is THAT my future? Just one day you'll leave me?"
And also we get to see Rose/Sarah Jane get into a mini-cat fiht but later team up against the Doctor.
Great episode. K-9 is so sweet. The cutest voice-over I've EVER EVER heard of.
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Date: 2006-06-13 07:56 pm (UTC)Now, that may say something about this incarnation of the Doctor... or it could say something about my taste in gents... but, nonetheless, there it is.
I'm no newcomer to Who. I've watched all of the incarnations. Some I liked better than others. But none had whatever magical fangirl combination of looks/goofiness/charm/intensity that Doctor v.9 has.
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Date: 2006-06-13 09:10 pm (UTC)Now, that may say something about this incarnation of the Doctor... or it could say something about my taste in gents... but, nonetheless, there it is.
Amen sister! That's kind of how I felt when I first said Gneech-sama's post. I suddenly felt the fangirl nerves in my brain activate.
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Date: 2006-06-13 08:08 pm (UTC)last episode death around every corner 1 kiss by capatain jack 1 kiss by rose does not a season of snoggin make
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Date: 2006-06-13 09:10 pm (UTC)I've watched this whole season through, and was very disappointed when it ended. Looking forward to season 2, though I am majorly bummed they aren't keeping Chris, yep this girl is a fangirl. *grin* Why, you might ask? Because he is a very good actor, he showed he cared about his companions without getting overly personally involved. There is no doubt he loves Rose, but is not "in love" with Rose. Big difference.
The one and only kiss they shared was necessary...but that is all I am going to explain, due to spoilers.
Captain Jack kissed both the Doctor and Rose, before he left on a mission he knew he wouldn't survive, and it was a goodbye quick type kiss.
Other kisses involved Rose's mom kissing her goodbye, Rose kissing her boyfriend Mickey, and Rose's Mom and Dad kissing. None were long, drawn out romantic types, and were simply normal behavior type responses for the relationships portrayed. Sure there are some flirting and sillyness between Rose and the Doctor, but you can tell they don't take it seriously, so why should the fans? On top of that, it's funny.
The episodes that really got me was "The Empty Child" and it's sequel "The Doctor Dances." Those two are extremely good, but overall, I would say the whole series was awesome!
I loved it, I was so hoping they would keep Chris, but as long as they keep Billie in the show and David manages to keep Chris' style, I'll be happy.
I'm a long time fan of Tom Baker, and I saw alot of his style and humor in Chris' portrayal of the Doctor. Basically Chris is a tough act to follow, I hope David is up for it.
Kyrin
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Date: 2006-06-14 01:56 am (UTC)I do not think you will be disappointed. :)
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Date: 2006-06-14 07:58 am (UTC)