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[livejournal.com profile] bearblue posted this, which subsequently made my brain explode: New Scientist: Our World May Be a Giant Hologram.

Not quite as huge, but still quite big in its own way, Earth, Observed. Also courtesy of [livejournal.com profile] bearblue.

-The Gneech

Date: 2009-01-16 01:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scixual.livejournal.com
As I understand it, a hologram is created (or projected, I guess) as an interaction between TWO 2D images, or rather the interference pattern of two interfering patterns.

I am trying to recall where I read something about this, three our five years ago. Blew my mind as I tried to wrap my head around it. INFORMATION as the ultimate source, and matter AND energy as clumps of information, interference patterns, waves in the pond from two different splashes.

Presumably 4d would be the interaction of 3 planes? How does time figure?

It's a fascinating idea. And vaguely Platonic (shadows on Plato's Cave?).

Date: 2009-01-16 07:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bearblue.livejournal.com
I'm glad I'm not the only one who went *foom!* :) But it's an awesome feeling isn't it. *grins*

Date: 2009-01-16 07:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] grayalynn.livejournal.com
No, whats really scary is the fact that the "Universe is a Hologram" is basically the occult ideology that Grant Morrison explains in the Invisibles - our universe is the interferance pattern between two more "real" states of existance in which, as scixual mentions, infromation is the ultimate source or reality.

Where the occultism of odd British comic writer's and cutting edge theoretical physics meet...there are no real words to describe it.

Date: 2009-01-16 08:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] graveyardgreg.livejournal.com
Grant Morrison is the Awesome. I really need to start reading the Invisibles.

Date: 2009-01-16 08:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] grayalynn.livejournal.com
There are very few things that I have ever read that make me feel overwhelmed, most of them were written by Germans who wrote in English about ethics and metaphysics, but there are parts of Invisibles that are *foom!*-ish (to borrow a term).

Date: 2009-01-16 11:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theodwulf.livejournal.com
They don't really make it clear what they mean by the universe being a hologram, do they? I mean, do they mean it isn't real? That it's being projected? That it looks like it has three dimensions but it doesn't?

I dunno, learning that the universe may be founded on something I don't understand (a metaphorical hologram in space time) at all instead of the stuff that I don't understand that I thought it was based on (matter and form) sounds to me like they wrapped the same question mark in different paper. I mean, we've never understood what the ultimate foundation of the universe is before now, so why not call it 'hologram's being projected by black holes'? Or 'Atman,' or 'Aether,' or 'Music of the Ainur?' Or 'Steve,' even?

If they all mean, 'stuff we don't know how it works, but it must be working cause here we all are,' then it doesn't make much difference.

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