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All the Trias You Can Eat, complete with their own custom-made tackle box. This was previously only available in the U.K.

But ... $1487 plus shipping...

Owie

Owie

Owie


Right, well, even assuming I could get $175 on eBay for the Prismacolors ... that's a lot of badges and commissions to sell. 0.o

Aheheheh. Maybe I should start with the set of 72, whattya think?

EDIT: Well, I bought the 72-marker set from ArtSuppliesOnline because they had it for cheapest ($240 including free shipping, or roughly $3.33 per marker). So, we'll see what we'll see!

-The Gneech

Date: 2005-03-04 06:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frostdemn.livejournal.com
You make me have wants... Such great wants for such expensive pens...
I'll have to stick to my cheap watercolor brush pen set 'til I get better..

Date: 2005-03-04 06:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] goodluckfox.livejournal.com
Can you artistic types explain something to me? What is the deal with markers? Why not just use computer coloring and print out? Or do you only worry about markers when you want to make a tangible real world work of art?

How long do those markers last? How long do they keep? You'd go long stretches without using any of them, right? Wouldn't they dry out? Others would get used A LOT such as black and common character colors and background colors.

So what's the word on markers?

Loxley

Date: 2005-03-04 06:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frostdemn.livejournal.com
If I may, here's some input
There are occasions when a commputer isn't handy, and you wanna color something. Computer ink also costs more than markers, I think. Also, if you're at a convention, you normally wouldn't have computer access unless it's a laptop, and even then you'd need a scanner too.
Markers lifetimes vary depending on the brand, because some work well. Long stretches without using them? They'll still work as long as they're capped and kept safe. And yeah, the ones used a lot, you normally buy more than one.

Last note, sorry for cutting in on that, Gneech. ^^;; I just have an urge to type lots of stuff.

Date: 2005-03-04 06:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-gneech.livejournal.com
Yeah, what Frosty said, pretty much. :) There's also something very satisfying on a primal level about creating an actual piece of art that you can hold in your hand, not to mention that on a financial basis, original pieces sell for way more than prints do. ;)

Computers, these days, are probably cheaper overall ... there are artists who take a laptop and an inkjet to cons and do computer colored pieces right there. But it seems a little cold to me somehow (and I'm a guy who loves do color on the computer!).

-TG

Date: 2005-03-04 07:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lowen-kind.livejournal.com
But isn't coloring on the computer a little awkward, especially on a tower? Unless you turn them sideways, and then you have the case texture possibly coming through. I'd hate to try to color on an IMAC, no straight surfaces at all. ;=3

Date: 2005-03-04 07:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-gneech.livejournal.com
Well, that's why I don't do it!

-TG

Date: 2005-03-04 07:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] makovette.livejournal.com
Sharpies and crayons work great for coloring computers, and if the cmputer is big enough, a rattle can of paint and a stencil can give some lovely effects ;-)

CYa!
Mako

Date: 2005-03-04 08:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frostdemn.livejournal.com
That's what clipart is for. X3
And glue. And Makovette's right, sharpies work well, as well as spray paint with a stencil. Hm, wonder if my laptop could use some nice pawprint trails...

Date: 2005-03-04 09:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kylet.livejournal.com
Wow. Where to begin?

1) Getting something to print out exactly as it looks onscreen is extremely difficult.
2) Not all colors are available on computer screens, so picking the color you *want* is sometimes impossible.
3) You can't necessarily print out on the right kind of paper.
4) If you're a vendor, there is no guarantee something is an "original" unless it's a hard copy.
5) IMHO, the imperfect shading of markers adds a touch of texture to things like fur (although of course, paints and pencils/pastels are better), and it adds a little life. You CAN get this effect on the computer if you're very good, but it's not as fast. The downside, of course, is markers are very seldom 100% smooth when you need THAT.
6) I doubt everyone feels this way, but picking and maintaining a color palette is easier when you're indecisive like me. 144 markers means less decisions than 16 million computer colors.

I don't use this brand, but I've had my marker set 1.5 years. It really is hit and miss how long they use. Browns, yellows, greys, and blues have tended to dry out for me. Incidentally, you don't use plain black much for rendering, if at all; it's not very useful for coloring. I don't think it's ever been used in any of my color art.

Date: 2005-03-04 07:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blacktigr.livejournal.com
I'll tell you the same thing my ex always used to tell me:
"Get what you will *use*. Buy the rest later." In this, he turned out to be wise. I am seriously thinking of giving most of my art stuff away. I haven't painted since I moved, and I haven't inked too much...

So "what I will use" is apparently nothing. And I don't have a big marker set to feel guilty about not using.

You, on the other hand, have some ability to regain your money by using the markers. You also know exactly what you want to do with them, and have demonstrated the ability to use what markers you have.

Date: 2005-03-04 07:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] makovette.livejournal.com
Jeebus, that's ~$5.20 per marker! That's farking insane $$$ =:-O

Why are they ripping of artists so badly?

CYa!
Mako

Date: 2005-03-04 08:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-gneech.livejournal.com
Because they can. -.-

Artists are worse than drug addicts.

-The Gneech

Date: 2005-03-04 08:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frostdemn.livejournal.com
He's right there. So much worse.. and more enthusiastic. Addicts often admit they have a problem. Artists say "OOOOO! PRISMAS!" and such and so forth.

Date: 2005-03-04 09:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lowen-kind.livejournal.com
But not quite as bad as scale model railroaders. ;=3

This is a hobby where you can spend $2000 on a brass H-O scale engine that you will paint, to hide the fact it is brass, and will be indistinguishable, at 3 feet, from a $200 plastic version of the same engine. :=3

Also, these same modlers will buy more rolling stock, structures, people, etc. than is possible to put on their layout, if they even have one. Right Smrgol? ;=3

From the railroading lion who could open a hobby shop with all his model RR stuff, and needs to clean his layout off to run anything. :=3

Date: 2005-03-04 10:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] susandeer.livejournal.com
Nice! That's cheaper than DickBlick.com! They want $4.29 per marker and don't even offer the 72 set. Their 48 set is $160, which you would build onto. Well done, Gneech. @:)

Date: 2005-03-05 02:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-gneech.livejournal.com
Thanks! But credit goes to [livejournal.com profile] lythandra, who is a Power Researcher when it comes to shopping around. ;)

-TG

Date: 2005-03-04 11:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] walkertxkitty.livejournal.com
Bad Gneech, no biscuit....quit making me want things.

BTW, your advice prevailed. I still have my art stuff and I'm even working on art a bit. Just not furry stuff at the moment.

Date: 2005-03-05 02:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-gneech.livejournal.com
Yay! I'm glad. ^.^

-TG

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