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More flamewars in the SJ forum. Blech. *pulls out the clue-by-four*

I remember when I first realized that there were people out there who actually liked to bicker and be nasty to other people ... who thought that it was somehow very funny to be insulting and rude and stir up trouble. Until then, I'd just sorta assumed, I guess, that the personality type was a construct created to make stories, and nasty people I met in the world around me just didn't realize they were being nasty, or would grow out of it. The idea of there really being Eris / Loki types who genuinely liked to just be nasty for its own sake is so far removed from my nature, that I can't really wrap my mind around it.

It's bad enough when generally well-meaning people have conflicts, either real or perceived ... it's another thing when there's somebody whose express intention is to incite sparks as some kind of perverse power trip. I just find that revolting, and in my own forum, I don't have to tolerate it.

And I won't.

-The Gneech

Date: 2003-07-30 07:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-lizard-rat.livejournal.com
*watches Gneech-san open fire*

Let 'em have it.

Guess I'm glad I forgot my password and am too lazy to go get another one, eh? I can't stand flame wars either, which is why I don't bother to go to message boards anymore.

Lizard Rat out.
Stalks-The-Wind's-Shadows in Rensselaer

Date: 2003-07-30 07:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tygermoonfoxx.livejournal.com
I still hold that belief, all evidence to the contrary, because the alternative is to become one very cynical and bitter person....which just makes me one of them. That's why it always hurts when I get stepped on; I'm never expecting it because I expect the best of folk and I expect to get what I give.

A note on Loki/Eris: it's a common misconception that they're nasty just for nastiness' sake. They serve a purpose within the general scheme of the universe and what they do weighs heavily on their conscience. I tend to work more with Loki than with Eris, so most of my information is from that angle. There's a fragment of poetry regarding his function: "Where the water stinks, I break the dam". His actual purpose is to create needed change ---controlled chaos if you will --- where it might be held back or otherwise not occur at all. The people of which you speak aren't Loki or Eris generated; they're just asswipes who can't think beyond personal benefit. They're so insecure in themselves that they have to incite insecurity in others so that they can feel better.

Just out of curiosity....how DOES one end up with a flame war over a comic strip? It does have inciteful and meaningful content, but it's basically art either way. What's to fight over?

Date: 2003-07-30 07:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chipuni.livejournal.com
It's a matter of immaturity. In short, they don't have to clean up after themselves -- they have Daddy to do that.

Date: 2003-07-30 08:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rhanlav.livejournal.com
Oooh. I deal with trolls all the time at the Bolter & Chainsword. Its a forum for gamers, but I have run into more than my fair share of folks who try to intentionally start something... just to do it. Yes, trolls suck. And its been my duty to make sure those trolls get booted from my sights before they do any real damage. Tis a hard job some days. Its even worst when you get a bunch of them doing it together.

--Rhan

Date: 2003-07-30 09:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-lizard-rat.livejournal.com
Sounds like a chat I might want to join. Is it RP?

And I know about trolls meself --- there used to be a Forgotten Realms chat I used to go to and a lot of people, myself included, liked to start something. The more mature players would have their characters sit back and watch the twinking going on.

I was known for beheading my character's wife after our "son from 2000 years in the future" came back to try to restore our marriage. I *hate* futuristic time travel and that was the result.

Lizard Rat out.
Rambling in Rensselaer

Date: 2003-07-30 10:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rhanlav.livejournal.com
Actually, no, its not RP. Its a Space Marine only forum for Warhammer 40k. Its very large, and we cover everything Space Marine-ish. If you wanna talk tactics, painting, modeling, or any other sort of 40k talk about marines... then the Bolter & Chainsword is the place to go. We were actually instrumental in getting a new set of rules approved to fix one of the marine chapters. Literally, the rules didn't work like they were meant to, so we had a whole section of the forum working on fixing them, and we got the rules APPROVED. Games Workshop actually thanked us for our contribution. :)

Anyways, I'll give you the link to the board. Take a look.

http://bolterandchainsword.ibforums.com/

And before you ask, I'm Fenrir Sureblade, one of the moderators of the Space Wolf section.

--Rhan

Date: 2003-07-30 11:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-lizard-rat.livejournal.com
*winces* I can't stand Warhammer 40K, sorry. Just not my thing. I perfer D&D to most anything else besides Whitewolf's Werewolf game.

Lizard Rat out.
Swinging his Klaive Blindly in Rensselaer

Date: 2003-07-30 12:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rhanlav.livejournal.com
Hey, no worries. 40k isn't for everyone. And personally, I enjoy D&D quite a bit as well. And I'm not much for WW games, except for Changeling, where you weren't automatically going to have to worry about someone ripping your head off and feeding it to you. But thats just my opinion.

--Rhan

It's hard to understand

Date: 2003-07-30 09:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] willowanderer.livejournal.com
*Pat pat* I try and forget that there are people who just like being nasty. It's such a ridiculously odd concept.
Loki is a decent enough fellow, if you get him in the right mood, and Eris is frequently seen as just stirring up people to see what they'll do.
If they just blink, take a step back and calm down, that's good too.
but it's so hard....

wow.

Date: 2003-07-30 11:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katsunewolf.livejournal.com
Gneechy is gonna open a can of Whoop-ass!
I guess i'll break my vow of "thou shalt not ever enter another Forum" just this once, so i can bear witnes.

I'll be one to admit, i love started a good debate.
but i only start a debate, when i already know the other persons veiw. i just like the exchange of ideas.
but being the shy, scared Libra i am. i always back down when things get /too/ heated.. then i whimper like a puppy..

^~Kai

GOOO! Gneech!

Date: 2003-07-30 12:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vlad-badger.livejournal.com
and in the words of Clue the movie...

"there are flames...flames on the side of my face...flames hot flames...burning..flames"


Flame war's are bad and evil!

Date: 2003-07-31 08:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] camstone.livejournal.com
Hrmmm... Feel free to "Toss the fox" into the fray if ever needed.
(Just don't tell the Kirin about it. ; )

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