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[the_gneech]

Yahoo News: Mayor Cleared of Gay-Marriage Charges

ALBANY, N.Y. - A judge Thursday dismissed criminal charges against a small-town mayor for marrying gay couples, saying the state failed to show it has a legitimate interest in banning same-sex weddings.

New Paltz Town Court Justice Jonathan Katz also ruled that prosecutors failed to prove the law New Paltz Mayor Jason West was charged with violating was constitutional.

Ker-SLAP! Mwuuhahahahaha! Score one for the good guys. :)

Still a long road of course, but there are times when a pause and smile are appropriate.

-The Gneech

Comments

Re: Good Guys?

[vverevvolf.livejournal.com]

There's good guys in all this? Just curious...

*Sigh* If only there really was a case when all the 'good guys' were on the same side of an issue...

Personally, I'm of the opinion that somethings don't have to be recognized by society in order to be meaningful... but maybe I'm wrong.

Re: Good Guys?

[the-gneech.livejournal.com]

Well, the marriage issue isn't about the meaning or lack thereof to the ceremony. It's about somebody's legal status for things such as visitation rights, power of attorney, etc. In that case, those trying to make it possible for people who would by every right be able to act for each other or receive life insurance benefits etc. if they were a M/F couple, but can't because they're M/M or F/F, are clearly the good guys, by my reckoning ... and the people trying to prevent it 'cause "OMG WE HATE GAYS" are pretty clearly bad.

-The Gneech

Re: Good Guys?

[vverevvolf.livejournal.com]

Yeah I see your points, I just think the whole issue has a huge can of worms going through it though. If someone is against Gay marriage merely because "OMG WE HATE GAYS" then sure, bad guy.

To me the purpose of a marriage is to have children, to increase society... something which, left to themselves, only a man and woman are capable of doing. The problem is that society has clipped this notion along with legal status such as the things you have mentioned. I'm of the opinion that we need another legal status that would allow legal grounds for visitation rights, power of attorney, etc.

I have nothing against M/M or F/F couples that want to be legally joined, but to me the idea of their being married is saying that these couples would be capable of doing anything a traditionally married M/F would be able to do, and they, biologically, can't.

Or maybe I'm just a bad guy. Feel the evil baby ! hehehe.

Re: Good Guys?

[the-gneech.livejournal.com]

Eh, I don't care if they call it "marriage," "domestic partnership," or "ham sandwich." I don't see "childrearing" as a necessary requirement for marriage, myself -- after all, an infertile married couple is still married, aren't they?

-The Gneech

Re: Good Guys?

[vverevvolf.livejournal.com]

True, True, the system we have is very flawed, never said it wasn't.

"Ham sandwich" = "Marriage"... There's an obscure reference to be saved for later... or used as a running gag to lighten an otherwise serious subject.

People just don't agree on what is and isn't a good set of conditions for "ham sandwich". What "ham sandwich" means to one person isn't necessarily what "ham sandwich" means to someone else. And I think that legally and morally, society won't be able to come to a consensus on what a "ham sandwich" really is, and what it's supposed to mean.

Anywho sorry if this conversation's been dragging you down any, you've posted that you weren't doing well this morning, hope things are looking up.
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